Episode 307 | "The Owl in the Sky" (with Yassy)
Digest
This podcast episode features a lively discussion among hosts, beginning with personal updates and transitioning into a deep dive into the Los Angeles hip-hop scene. A significant portion is dedicated to analyzing Complex and The Game's competing "Top 50 LA Rappers" lists, sparking debate about generational biases and the impact of an artist's death on their legacy. The conversation then shifts to industry politics, focusing on the controversy surrounding Pusha T's new album, the alleged censorship within the industry, and Drake's considerable influence. The hosts explore the power dynamics within the music industry, using the phrase "whose ball is it?" to illustrate the concept of ownership and control. Interspersed throughout are humorous anecdotes, including a verified story about a Beyoncé encounter and a discussion about a fugitive criminal. The podcast also delves into the music industry's inner workings, analyzing Jermaine Dupri's signing of Division (formerly with OVO) and Leon Thomas's Grammy potential. The episode concludes with an unscripted conversation, showcasing the hosts' informal and engaging podcast style. The "Diddy Juice" cocktail recipe is also humorously discussed.
Outlines

Introductions, Personal Updates & Diddy Juice Recipe
The podcast opens with casual conversation, including personal updates (new fatherhood, shaving head) and a humorous discussion of the "Diddy Juice" cocktail recipe.

Top 50 LA Rappers List Debate & Initial Discussion
Analysis of Complex and The Game's Top 50 LA rappers lists, debating rankings and generational preferences. This segues into a discussion comparing rappers, including Will I Am's perceived higher ranking.

LA Hip Hop Scene, Representation & Gang Involvement
Discussion of the LA hip-hop scene, its representation compared to the East Coast, and the unique collaborative spirit within LA, including conversations about gang involvement and the importance of respect.

Pusha T's New Music, Industry Politics & Drake's Influence
Focus on Pusha T's new album, the controversy surrounding its release (conflict with Def Jam, Kendrick Lamar feature removal), censorship in hip-hop, and Drake's influence and alleged censorship.

Industry Dynamics & Personal Anecdotes
Exploration of the slang term "whose ball is it?", relating it to industry power dynamics and ownership. This transitions into casual talk about musical groups, family dynamics, and a past event.

Beyoncé Verification Call & Antoine Mackey Discussion
A phone call verifies a story about a past encounter with Beyoncé. The conversation then shifts to a discussion about the fugitive criminal Antoine Mackey.

Cultural Differences, Animal Knowledge & Jermaine Dupri/Division/OVO
A humorous discussion about cultural differences and animal knowledge leads into a discussion of Jermaine Dupri signing Division, formerly with OVO, and the implications of this move.

Leon Thomas's Grammy Potential & Podcast Conclusion
Discussion of Leon Thomas's new deluxe album and his Grammy potential, concluding with unscripted conversation among the hosts, mentioning future podcast topics.
Keywords
Diddy Juice
A cocktail recipe featuring Sriracha vodka (or tequila), lemonade, and Welch's grape juice.
Top 50 LA Rappers
Lists by Complex and The Game ranking the top 50 Los Angeles rappers, sparking debate about ranking and generational biases.
Pusha T
American rapper whose new album release involved controversy with Def Jam and Kendrick Lamar.
Drake
Highly influential Canadian rapper whose impact on the hip-hop industry is discussed.
Censorship in Hip-Hop
Suppression of artistic expression in the hip-hop industry due to label pressure or other factors.
Jermaine Dupri
Music producer who signed Division, formerly with OVO.
OVO
Drake's record label.
Division
R&B duo formerly signed to OVO, now signed to Jermaine Dupri.
Leon Thomas
Rising R&B artist with Grammy potential.
Antoine Mackey
Fugitive criminal discussed in the podcast.
Q&A
What are the key differences between Complex's and The Game's Top 50 LA Rappers lists?
The lists differ significantly in rankings, particularly in the top 10, highlighting subjective opinions and generational biases.
What is the significance of the debate surrounding the Top 50 LA Rappers lists?
The debate highlights the subjective nature of ranking artists, the influence of generational preferences, and the role of media in shaping public perception.
What are the main points of contention surrounding Pusha T's new album release?
A dispute with Def Jam led to the removal of a Kendrick Lamar feature, highlighting power dynamics and censorship in the industry.
How does Drake's influence impact the decisions made within the hip-hop industry?
Drake's significant power potentially influences censorship and impacts other artists' careers.
What is the significance of the phone call to the mother regarding Beyoncé?
The call verifies a story about a past encounter with Beyoncé, adding credibility and context.
Why is the case of Antoine Mackey so captivating to the speakers?
Mackey's prolonged evasion of law enforcement sparks discussion about the criminal justice system.
What are the implications of Division leaving OVO and signing with Jermaine Dupri?
This move signifies a potential shift in the R&B landscape and highlights the importance of artist development and label relationships.
What makes Leon Thomas's music stand out, according to the speakers?
His use of live instrumentation and unique artistic approach set him apart.
What is the overall tone of the final segment of this podcast?
The final segment is highly informal and unscripted, characterized by casual language and playful banter.
What is the overall tone and perspective of the podcast regarding the issues discussed?
The podcast presents a critical yet insightful perspective on the complexities of the hip-hop industry, highlighting power struggles, censorship, and the human element behind the music.
Show Notes
This week, SaVon and Alex are joined by Yassy, Creator & Host of the Let's Get Unserious Podcast. The crew kicks things off by asking Pierre why he decided to go bald (4:10 ) and contemplating if they want to try Diddy juice (10:25 ). Later, they break down Complex and The Game's lists of the top 50 Los Angeles rappers of all time (18:35 ) and Clipse's "Ace Trumpets," their GQ interview, and Pusha T paying seven figures to exit Def Jam (38:58 ). They also discuss Yassy's time working with Akadmeiks (1:16:54 ), escaped New Orleans inmate Antoine Massey taking to Instagram to plead for help from Meek Mill, Lil Wayne, and others (1:23:53 ), Jermaine Dupri signing dvsn (1:42:56 ), Leon Thomas' 'MUTT Deluxe: HEALED" (1:52:45 ), and much more!
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