Episode 326- Shawn Barber (tattooer/painter/teacher)
Digest
This podcast features an interview with Sean Barber, a tattoo artist and painter, who shares his life story and artistic journey. The conversation begins with discussions about substance abuse and recovery, highlighting resources like Re-5 Recovery. Sean details his unique sleep schedule, his childhood in upstate New York, and his experiences with bullying. He recounts his path from community college dropout to art school, his move to California, and his transition from illustration to painting and tattooing. His artistic evolution is explored, influenced by 9/11 and his experiences in different cities. The podcast also delves into his career as a tattoo artist, the challenges he faced, and his relationships with other artists. The conversation touches upon his past substance use, the influence of Jiddu Krishnamurti's philosophy, and his current life and career in Los Angeles. The artists discuss the changing perception of tattoos, the impact of the pandemic, and the increase in crime. They also discuss their artistic process, painting style, the changing tattoo industry, economic challenges, and the significance of tattoos as personal markers of life experiences. The podcast concludes with a discussion of laser tattoo removal and the artists' musical preferences and experiences. Throughout the podcast, several sponsorships are mentioned, including AG1, Liquid Death, and Removery.
Outlines

Introduction, Substance Abuse, and Early Life
Introduction to Sean Barber, discussion of substance abuse struggles, promotion of Re-5 Recovery, and early details of Sean's life including his unique sleep patterns and childhood in upstate New York.

Artistic Career and Influences
Sean's journey from community college to art school, his move to California, transition to painting and tattooing, artistic evolution, influences (including 9/11), and challenges faced in the tattoo industry.

Life in Los Angeles, Substance Use, and Philosophy
Discussion of Sean's relationship, relocation to LA, past substance use (LSD, mushrooms), the influence of Jiddu Krishnamurti's philosophy, and renewed interest in reading.

Career, Pandemic Impact, and Tattoos
Current life and career in Los Angeles, teaching workshops, tattooing, selling paintings, changing perception of tattoos, impact of the pandemic, increase in crime, and the normalization of tattoos.

Tattooing, Artistic Process, and Industry Changes
Discussion of extensive tattoos, pain involved, social implications, artistic process, painting style, differences between painting and tattooing, and the changing tattoo industry (oversaturation, at-home tattooing, client preferences).

Economic Challenges, Tattoos as Life Markers, and Tattoo Removal
Economic challenges faced by small businesses, tattoos as markers of life's journey, comparison to music, laser tattoo removal, its advancements, and personal experiences with the procedure.

Musical Preferences, Artistic Practices, and Daily Life
Musical tastes, concert experiences, musical influences (90s hip-hop), artistic practices, hobbies (drumming, cycling), daily routines, past jobs, and financial stability.

Life Reflections, Inspirations, and Future Goals
Life reflections, regrets, daily rituals, sources of inspiration, maintaining a positive attitude, future goals, potential projects, and the possibility of returning to teaching.

Removery Tattoo Removal Sponsorship
Paid advertisement for Removery, a tattoo removal company, including personal experience with tattoo removal and encouragement to check out a specific podcast episode.

Health and Wellness & Sponsorships
Discussion of mental and physical health, promotion of AG1 supplement, and sponsorship of Liquid Death water brand.
Keywords
Re-5 Recovery
Substance abuse and alcoholism treatment center.
AG1
Foundational nutrition supplement.
Liquid Death
Sustainable water brand.
Night Owl Syndrome
Delayed sleep phase disorder.
Tattoo Art Styles
Diverse styles and techniques in tattoo art.
Microdosing
Consuming small doses of psychedelics.
Jiddu Krishnamurti
Indian philosopher and spiritual teacher.
Post-Pandemic Economic Impact
Economic consequences after COVID-19.
Tattoo Removal
Process of removing unwanted tattoos.
90s Hip-Hop
Genre of hip-hop music popular in the 1990s.
Q&A
What inspired Sean Barber's transition from illustration to painting and tattooing?
Dissatisfaction with commercial illustration, desire for creative freedom, influence of fellow artists.
How did Sean Barber overcome the challenges of bullying in his youth?
A pivotal incident led to a shift in self-perception and assertiveness.
What unique aspects of Sean Barber's artistic process contribute to his success?
Hyper-efficient work ethic, honed through demanding projects.
How has Sean Barber's personal life influenced his art?
Significant life events profoundly impacted his artistic themes and styles.
What advice would Sean Barber give to aspiring artists?
Be persistent, embrace challenges, learn from diverse sources, take risks.
What are some of the challenges facing the tattoo industry today?
Oversaturation, at-home tattooing, changing client preferences, economic downturn.
How has the perception of tattoos changed over time?
Tattoos have become increasingly normalized due to increased visibility in media.
How did the artists' past experiences with psychedelic drugs influence their lives and art?
Psychedelic experiences led to shifts in perspective and influenced artistic approach.
What is the artists' approach to painting?
Their process varies, sometimes working from life, often using projected images.
What are the artists' thoughts on full-body or blackout tattoos?
Acknowledge artistic merit but express concerns about health implications and permanence.
Show Notes
In this episode Toby sits down with tattooer and painter Shawn Barber! They chat about his sleeping habits, flying habits, NY, being bullied at a young age, partying, Cali to Florida, teaching, commercial work, tattooing, his shop Memoir Tattoo, his family, inspirations and not being worried about the future.
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