Episode 343: JIMMY JAM
Digest
This podcast features an in-depth interview with Jimmy Jam, a renowned music producer and DJ. The conversation spans his entire career, from his early days DJing in Minneapolis to his current work and his perspective on the music industry. He discusses his collaborations with iconic artists like Janet Jackson, Prince, and Usher, detailing the creative processes behind some of their biggest hits, including the unexpected origins of the drum sound in Janet Jackson's "Control." Jam also shares insights into the Minneapolis music scene, his mentorship from Clarence Avant, and the challenges faced by young artists, particularly the lack of support and resources. He highlights the importance of the Music Maker's Grant, a program he and Terry Lewis established to support emerging Black music producers and songwriters. The interview also touches upon the evolution of the Grammy Awards, the changing role of DJs in the music industry, and the rise of remix culture, with a focus on fair compensation for artists and producers. Jam reflects on his transition from DJ to producer, his relationship with Prince and Terry Lewis, and his ongoing commitment to collaboration and mentorship. The podcast offers a fascinating look into the life and career of a true music legend, providing valuable insights into the creative process, the challenges of the music industry, and the importance of supporting emerging talent.
Outlines

Introduction and Early Career
Introduces Jimmy Jam and the podcast, covering his early career as a DJ in Minneapolis, his musical upbringing, and the formation of his partnership with Terry Lewis. Includes his early experiences opening for major acts and the impact of Electrifying Mojo's radio play.

Grammy Awards and Industry Changes
Discusses Jimmy Jam's experience as a Grammy board member, highlighting changes in the Recording Academy's membership, leading to increased diversity and the impact of the L.A. wildfires on the Grammy Awards.

Music Maker's Grant and Philanthropy
Focuses on the Music Maker's Grant, its purpose, and its impact on supporting emerging Black music producers and songwriters.

Mentorship and Challenges for Young Artists
Explores the challenges faced by young artists, the lack of support and mentorship, and how Jimmy Jam and others are addressing this issue.

Clarence Avant's Influence and the "Control" Recording Story
Discusses the influence of Clarence Avant and shares anecdotes about the recording of Janet Jackson's "Control," including the accidental creation of its iconic drum sound.

New Jack Swing and Musical Influences
Discusses New Jack Swing, its origins, and influences, including Jimmy Jam's perspective and insights.

Transition from DJ to Producer
Details Jimmy Jam's transition from DJing to becoming a full-time producer and songwriter with Terry Lewis.

Detroit Breakthrough and Early Successes
Recounts early career highlights, including their first gig in Detroit and the impact of Electrifying Mojo's radio play.

Meeting Terry Lewis and Prince, Minneapolis Music Scene
Describes meeting Terry Lewis and Prince, their early collaborations, and the competitive yet collaborative Minneapolis music scene.

Overcoming Racial Barriers and Entrepreneurial Spirit
Explains how they overcame racial barriers in the music industry by becoming entrepreneurs and creating their own events.

Move to LA, Early Struggles, and the SOS Band Opportunity
Recounts their move to LA, initial struggles, and the unexpected opportunity with the SOS Band after being fired by Prince.

The Impact of the SOS Band and Connecting People
Reflects on the impact of working with the SOS Band and shares an example of connecting Grace Bowers with Chris Martin.

Return to DJing and Musical Influences
Discusses the reasons for returning to DJing, emphasizing the creative outlet and opportunity to tell stories through music.

Producer/DJ Mentality and Creative Expression
Contrasts the mentalities of producers and DJs and discusses his approach to combining both aspects of his career.

Sampling, Collaboration, and Artist Relationships
Expresses his love for sampling and shares anecdotes about his relationships with artists whose work he has sampled.

Collaborations with Rappers and the Dilla Story
Discusses collaborations with rappers and clarifies misconceptions about his involvement with J Dilla.

Creating "Together Again" with Janet Jackson
Details the creation of Janet Jackson's "Together Again," including the challenges and the final product's success.

Production Techniques and Artist Collaboration
Discusses their approach to production, emphasizing understanding an artist's style and creating music that aligns with their identity.

The Production of Usher's "Bad Girl"
Explores the creation of Usher's "Bad Girl," highlighting their collaborative process.

Jimmy Jam & Terry Lewis' Debut Album and Beyond
Explains the creation of their debut album and discusses their work with other artists, including the Human League and Pink.
Keywords
Grammy Awards
The annual awards ceremony recognizing achievements in the music industry. This year's ceremony saw significant changes in membership, leading to greater diversity among nominees and winners.
New Jack Swing
A subgenre of R&B music popular in the late 1980s and early 1990s.
Music Maker's Grant
A grant program established by Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis to support and mentor emerging Black music producers and songwriters.
Mentorship
The process of guiding and supporting a less experienced person, particularly in a professional context.
Prince
Iconic musician and a major influence on Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis's recording techniques and approach to music production.
Minneapolis Music Scene
The vibrant and unique music scene of Minneapolis, known for its diverse influences and innovative artists.
Sampling
The act of incorporating portions of pre-existing recordings into new musical works.
Terry Lewis
A long-time collaborator with Jimmy Jam, known for their songwriting and production work with numerous artists.
Janet Jackson
Iconic pop and R&B singer, known for her innovative music and dance.
Usher
Grammy-winning R&B singer, known for his smooth vocals and dance moves.
Q&A
What were some of the significant changes in the Grammy Awards that Jimmy Jam was involved in?
Increased diversity in the Recording Academy's membership, leading to a more representative Best New Artist category, and adapting the show to the backdrop of the L.A. wildfires.
How did Jimmy Jam's experience as a DJ influence his production style?
His DJ experience provided a deep understanding of what works on the dance floor, shaping his approach to creating dynamic and engaging songs.
What is the story behind the iconic drum sound on Janet Jackson's "Control"?
The distinctive drum sound was initially an unintentional mistake—recording with VU meters in the red—that became a defining characteristic of the song.
What is the purpose of the Music Maker's Grant?
The grant provides financial support, mentorship, studio time, and networking opportunities for Black music producers and songwriters.
What was the most significant turning point in your career?
Becoming entrepreneurs and creating their own events in Minneapolis, overcoming racial barriers.
How did your relationship with Prince influence your career path?
Prince's immense talent and the competitive Minneapolis music scene pushed Jimmy Jam to strive for excellence.
Why did you decide to return to DJing?
A desire to reconnect with his roots, explore a new creative outlet, and share stories through music and sampling.
How has sampling influenced your musical style?
Sampling has broadened his musical horizons, connecting him to various genres and generations of artists.
What is your philosophy on collaboration?
Collaboration is key. He emphasizes mutual respect, creative synergy, and a willingness to help other artists grow.
What is the most important element in creating a successful record for an artist?
The artist's authentic voice and unique style. The production should enhance and support the artist's identity.
Show Notes
On this week’s episode of the @RoadPodcast, the fellas welcome legendary Grammy Award-winning producer and DJ, Jimmy Jam (@flytetymejam). Jimmy Jam reflects on various milestones in his career, starting with his involvement in the Grammys (01:55 ), he discusses his favorite new artist (02:40 ) and the impact of the fires on the awards show (05:34 ). He breaks down the samples in his production of @JanetJackson’s hit songs (18:45 ), and the crew credits Jimmy with the creation of New Jack Swing (34:60 ). Jimmy Jam speaks on his early years in Minnesota DJing (42:20 ), joining Terry Lewis’ band (@flytetymelewis) (50:10 ), and recalls going to junior high with #Prince (@1:05:55 ). Finally, he talks about getting back into DJing (1:35:10 ) and which current hip-hop artist he would love to work with (2:20:01 ).
























