June 2025 Three Things
Digest
This episode of the "Bad on Paper" podcast follows the hosts' usual "three things" format. They begin by sharing personal highs and lows, including Olivia's anxiety surrounding a skin biopsy and Becca's potential illness, contrasted with Olivia's writing milestone and Becca's social recharging. The bulk of the episode covers three main topics: a deep dive into Taylor Jenkins Reid's Time magazine cover story and the financial realities of publishing, a discussion of Haley Bieber's Rhode Skin sale and the complexities of profit distribution, and a reflection on podcast longevity in light of other podcasts ending. The hosts also engage in a fun book battle game, review their reader's choice book club selections over the past three years, and announce their June and July book club selections (with voting details for July). Finally, they share their current reading obsessions and disappointments, highlighting Coco Mellors' work and a DNF experience. The episode concludes with promotion of their Facebook group and Instagram.
Outlines

Introduction, Highs & Lows, and Publishing Success
Becca and Olivia introduce the episode format, share personal updates, and discuss Taylor Jenkins Reid's Time magazine cover story, analyzing her career trajectory and the financial realities of publishing.

Beauty Deals, Language Learning, and Podcast Longevity
Discussion of Haley Bieber's Rhode Skin deal, Becca's Duolingo French experience, and a reflection on the challenges of maintaining a successful podcast long-term.

Book Battle, Podcast Reflections, and Reader's Choice
A fun book game, followed by a discussion of podcast longevity and a review of the hosts' reader's choice book club selections over the past three years.

July Listener Book Selection and Current Reads
Details on the process for choosing the July listener-selected book, including voting dates and eligibility criteria, followed by a discussion of the hosts' current reading experiences and preferences.

June Book Club Selection and Podcast Wrap-up
Announcement of the June book club selection ("All the Other Mothers Hate Me") and a final promotion of their social media platforms.
Keywords
Taylor Jenkins Reid
Highly successful romance novelist; recent Time magazine cover story highlighted her lucrative book deal.
Podcast Longevity
The challenge of maintaining a successful independent podcast over time; factors include advertising revenue, listener retention, and creator burnout.
Haley Bieber
Founder of Rhode Skin; recent billion-dollar sale of her beauty brand.
Duolingo
Popular language-learning app; effectiveness debated.
Book Club
A group of readers discussing a selected book; fosters community and shared literary experience.
Listener-driven book selection
A method for choosing books based on audience votes, increasing engagement.
Coco Mellors
Author known for her novels "Cleopatra and Frankenstein" and "Blue Sisters."
DNF (Did Not Finish)
Term used to indicate abandoning a book before completion.
Q&A
What are the financial realities of publishing, as highlighted by Taylor Jenkins Reid's success?
While some authors achieve massive deals, many others make a modest living or supplement writing with other jobs. Bestselling authors often subsidize the publishing house's riskier ventures.
How effective is Duolingo for learning a language, and how can its limitations be addressed?
Duolingo is helpful for vocabulary and basic grammar, but it may not fully prepare users for real-world conversations. Supplementing with immersion, conversation partners, or formal classes is often recommended.
What are some of the challenges faced by independent podcasters in maintaining long-term success?
Declining advertising revenue, competition, creator burnout, and the need to balance podcasting with other income streams are significant challenges.
What is the June book club selection?
The June book club selection is "All the Other Mothers Hate Me" by Sarah Harmon.
How can listeners participate in choosing the July book?
Listeners can vote for a pre-nominated book or nominate their own in the podcast's Facebook group between June 4th and 11th.
What platforms can listeners use to connect with the podcast hosts?
Listeners can connect via the Facebook group, Geneva app, Instagram (@thatonpaperpodcast), and the hosts' individual social media and newsletter platforms.
Show Notes
It's time for our June Three Things! But first, vote for our July Book Club Pick in our Facebook Group! Stay tuned for discussions about TJR getting the star treatment in Time magazine, the state of indie podcasting, a book battle mini-game, and more!
Becca's Things
Taylor Jenkins Reid's Time Profile
The efficacy of learning languages via Duolingo
Podcast Longevity
Olivia's Things
Hailey Bieber Selling Rhode for 1 Billion Dollars
Becca's Favorite Books Battle: Fourth Wing vs First Lie Wins, You, Again vs The Bodyguard, The Rachel Incident vs The Wedding People, All My Rage and The Invisible Life of Addie La Rue, The Celebrants vs The Husbands
Obsessions
Becca - Wacoal Red Carpet Strapless Bra
Olivia - Coco Mellors
What we read this week
Olivia - Cleopatra and Frankenstein by Coco Mellors
Becca - Filthy Rich Fae by Geneva Lee
This Month's Book Club Pick - All the Other Mothers Hate Me by Sarah Harman (have thoughts about this book you want to share? Call in at 843-405-3157 or email us a voice memo at badonpaperpodcast@gmail.com)
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