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Monday Mailbag: Best second sports for NFL players, the meaning of 'scheme,' BYO team brain trust, and more

Monday Mailbag: Best second sports for NFL players, the meaning of 'scheme,' BYO team brain trust, and more

Update: 2025-05-191
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This NFL podcast covers a range of topics, including the impact of multi-sport backgrounds on NFL draft prospects (particularly volleyball and basketball), the construction of a hypothetical NFL expansion team, and a comparative analysis of successful (Shanahan, McVay) and less successful (Grubb) offensive schemes. The decline of the off-ball linebacker position is discussed, along with an examination of Jay Cutler's career and the schemes he played in. The podcast also explores the concepts of honorable and dishonorable play styles, the process of revising opinions based on new information, and the hypothetical trade value of a starting left tackle. Finally, the importance of organizational health and overall team strength in drafting and developing successful quarterbacks is emphasized, arguing against the necessity of always drafting a quarterback high in the draft.

Outlines

00:02:28
Draft Prospects & Multi-Sport Athletes and Building an NFL Expansion Franchise

The hosts discuss how different secondary sports impact NFL draft prospects, focusing on volleyball and basketball. They then build a hypothetical NFL expansion team, selecting key personnel and discussing their reasoning.

00:15:07
Offensive Scheme Analysis & The Decline of the Off-Ball Linebacker

A comparison of elite (Shanahan, McVay) and less successful (Grubb) offensive schemes is presented, highlighting key differences. The decreasing value of off-ball linebackers in the modern NFL is also analyzed.

00:29:27
Jay Cutler, Offensive Schemes, and Play Styles

The podcast discusses which offensive scheme best suited Jay Cutler, debating whether scheme or effort was the primary factor in his career inconsistencies. Different perspectives on honorable and dishonorable NFL play styles are also explored.

00:37:39
Revising Opinions and Trading a Starting Left Tackle

The hosts detail their process for revising opinions based on new information and outcomes. They then discuss the hypothetical trade value of a starting left tackle in the NFL.

00:52:43
Drafting Franchise Quarterbacks

The necessity of drafting a quarterback high in the draft is debated, emphasizing the importance of organizational health and overall team strength in quarterback success.

Keywords

NFL Draft Prospects


Analysis of NFL draft prospects, considering the impact of multi-sport backgrounds and positional evolution.

Offensive Schemes


Comparison of successful and unsuccessful offensive schemes in the NFL, focusing on play sequencing and personnel usage.

Linebacker Position Evolution


Discussion of the changing role of linebackers in the NFL due to evolving offensive strategies.

Quarterback Development


Analysis of factors contributing to quarterback success, including draft position, organizational health, and team strength.

NFL Team Building


Hypothetical construction of an NFL expansion team, highlighting the importance of coaching and player selection.

Multi-sport Athlete


The impact of experience in multiple sports on NFL player performance and draft potential.

Opinion Revision


The process of reevaluating opinions based on new information and outcomes.

NFL Trade Value


Discussion of the hypothetical trade value of a starting left tackle in the NFL.

Q&A

  • What secondary sport best boosts a wide receiver's draft evaluation?

    Lacrosse for slot receivers and volleyball due to transferable skills.

  • How do you analyze and revise your old opinions based on actual outcomes?

    The hosts emphasize curiosity and openness to change, prioritizing understanding the reasons behind outcomes.

  • What is the average trade value of a starting left tackle in the NFL?

    Trades are rare; value depends on team needs and contract situation.

  • Is drafting a QB high in the draft the only way to get an elite QB?

    No, organizational health and overall team strength are equally crucial.

Show Notes

Ever wonder what would be the most beneficial second sport for a future NFL player to play on their way to the league? Ever think about how you'd build your own team brain trust if you couldn't poach anyone currently in the job? Ever consider which current coach could've gotten the most out of Jay Cutler? Good news, this edition of the TAFS mailbag is for you! Robert Mays and Derrik Klassen answer each of those questions, and a whole bunch more.


Hosts: Robert Mays and Derrik Klassen

With: Michael Beller

Executive Producer: Michael Beller

Producer: Michael Beller

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Monday Mailbag: Best second sports for NFL players, the meaning of 'scheme,' BYO team brain trust, and more

Monday Mailbag: Best second sports for NFL players, the meaning of 'scheme,' BYO team brain trust, and more