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Nancy Pelosi, the Power Broker

Nancy Pelosi, the Power Broker

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This podcast features an interview with former Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi, discussing her new book "The Art of Power." She reflects on her time in Congress, the assault on her husband, and the current political climate. Pelosi discusses her decision to step down as Speaker of the House, highlighting the demanding nature of the role and the need for new leadership. She also reflects on the importance of women in politics and the need for increased participation. Pelosi discusses Kamala Harris's choice of Governor Walz of Minnesota as her running mate, emphasizing the importance of chemistry and dynamic between the presidential and vice presidential candidates. She also reflects on the talent pool of potential candidates and the importance of unifying America. Pelosi discusses Donald Trump's reaction to Kamala Harris entering the presidential race, suggesting that he seems to be flailing and unsure of how to handle the new dynamic. She also shares her insights into Trump's mental health and his tendency to project his own qualities onto others. Pelosi discusses the importance of women's rights, particularly the right to choose, in the upcoming election. She highlights the significance of this issue for voters and the need to get the message out there effectively. Pelosi discusses the potential impact of a Trump defeat on the Republican Party, suggesting that it could lead to a disintegration of Trumpism and a return to more traditional Republican values. She also shares her perspective on the Republican Party's current state and the role of enablers. Pelosi discusses the importance of political skills and the need for more young leaders with the necessary chops. She reflects on her own career and the importance of having no other agenda than serving the people. Pelosi discusses Joe Biden's decision to step aside from the presidential race, acknowledging the personal drama and the impact on his legacy. She also expresses her hope for his well-being and the importance of his legacy. Pelosi discusses the importance of encouraging young women to run for public office, highlighting the need for increased participation and the positive impact it has on the political process. She shares her own "why" for entering politics and the importance of knowing one's purpose.

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00:00:55
Nancy Pelosi on the Art of Power and the Current Political Climate

This chapter features an interview with former Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi, discussing her new book "The Art of Power." She reflects on her time in Congress, the assault on her husband, and the current political climate. She discusses her decision to step down as Speaker of the House, highlighting the demanding nature of the role and the need for new leadership. She also reflects on the importance of women in politics and the need for increased participation.

00:21:59
Kamala Harris's Vice Presidential Pick and the Importance of Unifying America

Pelosi discusses Kamala Harris's choice of Governor Walz of Minnesota as her running mate, emphasizing the importance of chemistry and dynamic between the presidential and vice presidential candidates. She also reflects on the talent pool of potential candidates and the importance of unifying America.

00:24:43
Donald Trump's Response to Kamala Harris and Insights into His Mental Health

Pelosi discusses Donald Trump's reaction to Kamala Harris entering the presidential race, suggesting that he seems to be flailing and unsure of how to handle the new dynamic. She also shares her insights into Trump's mental health and his tendency to project his own qualities onto others.

00:28:53
The Future of the Republican Party and the Potential Impact of a Trump Defeat

Pelosi discusses the potential impact of a Trump defeat on the Republican Party, suggesting that it could lead to a disintegration of Trumpism and a return to more traditional Republican values. She also shares her perspective on the Republican Party's current state and the role of enablers.

00:34:14
Encouraging Young Women to Run for Office and the Importance of Knowing One's Purpose

Pelosi discusses the importance of encouraging young women to run for public office, highlighting the need for increased participation and the positive impact it has on the political process. She shares her own "why" for entering politics and the importance of knowing one's purpose.

Keywords

Nancy Pelosi


Nancy Pelosi is an American politician who served as the 52nd Speaker of the United States House of Representatives from 2007 to 2011 and again from 2019 to 2023. She is the first woman to hold the position of Speaker.

The Art of Power


"The Art of Power" is a memoir by Nancy Pelosi, reflecting on her career in politics and her experiences as Speaker of the House. The book explores themes of leadership, power, and the challenges of navigating a complex political landscape.

Donald Trump


Donald Trump is an American politician who served as the 45th president of the United States from 2017 to 2021. He is a controversial figure known for his divisive rhetoric and policies.

Kamala Harris


Kamala Harris is an American politician who served as the 49th vice president of the United States from 2021 to 2023. She is the first woman and first African American and first Asian American to hold the office.

Joe Biden


Joe Biden is an American politician who served as the 46th president of the United States from 2021 to 2023. He is known for his long career in politics and his focus on bipartisanship.

Republican Party


The Republican Party is one of the two major contemporary political parties in the United States. It is generally considered to be center-right on the political spectrum.

Democratic Party


The Democratic Party is one of the two major contemporary political parties in the United States. It is generally considered to be center-left on the political spectrum.

Women in Politics


Women's participation in politics has been increasing in recent years, but they are still underrepresented in leadership positions. This is a significant issue as women bring unique perspectives and experiences to the political process.

Trumpism


Trumpism refers to the political ideology and movement associated with Donald Trump. It is characterized by populism, nationalism, and a rejection of traditional political norms.

Q&A

  • What led to Nancy Pelosi's decision to step down as Speaker of the House?

    Pelosi decided to step down after 20 years as Speaker or Leader, citing the demanding nature of the role and the need for new leadership. She also mentioned the need to raise a million dollars a day to support the Democratic Party, which required significant time and effort.

  • What are Nancy Pelosi's thoughts on the current political climate and the role of women in politics?

    Pelosi believes that the current political climate is deeply divided and that Donald Trump has played a significant role in normalizing negativity and violence. She emphasizes the importance of women in politics and the need for increased participation, arguing that women bring unique perspectives and experiences to the political process.

  • What are Nancy Pelosi's thoughts on Kamala Harris's choice of Governor Walz of Minnesota as her running mate?

    Pelosi believes that Walz is a good choice for running mate, emphasizing the importance of chemistry and dynamic between the presidential and vice presidential candidates. She also highlights the talent pool of potential candidates and the importance of unifying America.

  • What are Nancy Pelosi's thoughts on Donald Trump's mental health and his tendency to project his own qualities onto others?

    Pelosi believes that Trump is a master of projection and that he often projects his own qualities onto others. She suggests that he is aware of his own shortcomings and that he knows he shouldn't be president.

  • What are Nancy Pelosi's thoughts on the future of the Republican Party and the potential impact of a Trump defeat?

    Pelosi believes that a Trump defeat could lead to a disintegration of Trumpism and a return to more traditional Republican values. She also shares her perspective on the Republican Party's current state and the role of enablers.

  • What advice would Nancy Pelosi give to a young woman considering a career in politics?

    Pelosi encourages young women to run for public office, highlighting the need for increased participation and the positive impact it has on the political process. She emphasizes the importance of knowing one's "why" and being prepared to take a punch.

Show Notes

Nancy Pelosi, who represents California’s Eleventh Congressional District, led the Democratic Party in the House of Representatives for so long, and so effectively, that one forgets she was also the first woman to hold the job. Her stewardship of consequential legislation—including the Affordable Care Act and the Inflation Reduction Act—during her eight years as Speaker is legendary. And Pelosi has wielded tremendous influence this election cycle: she seems to have been instrumental in persuading President Biden to withdraw from the campaign in place of a new Democratic candidate.  After years of friendship with Biden, it wasn’t easy, she tells David Remnick, who asks, “You think your relationship will be there?” “I hope so,” Pelosi admits. “I pray so. I cry so. I lose sleep on it.” After stepping away from Democratic leadership herself, in 2023, she wrote a book with a short and apt title: “The Art of Power.”  Pelosi speaks to Remnick about the importance of having a strong mission undergirding the skills of political gamesmanship. “This is not for the faint of heart,” she says. “This is tough. If you know your ‘why,’ the slings and arrows are worth it. If you don’t know your ‘why,’ don’t even do this. . . . You’ve got to be proud of your wounds.”

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