The Musketeers Take Washington + Spotify's Ghost Music + Tool Time
Update: 2025-02-07
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This week, we’re joined by the Times reporter Jonathan Swan to discuss Elon Musk’s tech takeover of Washington, D.C. Then, Liz Pelly, author of a new book about Spotify, stops by to discuss “ghost musicians” and how Spotify’s algorithms are reshaping music culture. And finally — it’s Tool Time! We’ll tell you all about the new A.I. tools we’re using, plus the one that we wish existed.
Guests:
- Jonathan Swan, a White House reporter for The New York Times
- Liz Pelly, author of “Mood Machine: The Rise of Spotify and the Costs of the Perfect Playlist”
Additional Reading:
- Inside Musk’s Aggressive Incursion Into the Federal Government
- The Ghosts in the Machine
- ChatGPT's deep research might be the first good agent
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