It’s time for your October Indulgence Gospel. And today… we’re going to look back at all of our Butters!

If you’re new here, Butter is the recommendation segment that runs at the end of every podcast episode. Butter is sometimes things you can buy, but it can also be a show or book we love, something great that we ate, a current mood, etc. Butter is any small moment of joy. (It can also, ofc, be literal butter, which we all know to be synonymous with joy.) But sometimes joy is fleeting!

So today, paid subscribers get to hear which Butters have stood the test of time:

Is Virginia still wearing her trad wife dress?

Does Corinne still love her $100 baseball hat?

Are we still into the bra that made us break up with underwire?

Plus a few low-key life-changing household appliances, Virginia’s favorite thing about her bedroom, and what we’re definitely going to STOP recommending from now on… 

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Episode 165 Transcript

Virginia

So the theme of this episode was determined not just by the fact I forgot to ask people for listener questions before planning this episode. It is a theme we were going to do regardless at some point! We are going to look at all of our Butters.

Corinne

I’m really excited to do this because I feel like there are some that have not held up for me. And I’m just excited to remember all the things that I’ve recommended. 

Virginia

Yeah, do we stand by that Butter? That’s really the headline here. I think this us a good thing for us to do periodically, since we are a show that both regularly recommends products and yet also wrestles with our relationship with consumerism. 

I, in particular, am on the receiving end of some valid criticisms on that front, and it’s good for me to look at that. And also look back at this and be like, wow I bought that thing and I don’t use it at all anymore.

But first, Corinne, we need to talk about your closet. How is your closet?

Corinne

Yes, so I’m I’m taking the tiniest steps towards a closet clean out.

Virginia

Very excited for you. 

Corinne

Yes, I decluttered my gym clothes, which was a mini version of my whole closet. There’s a lot more to do. I also I’m going to a clothing swap tomorrow, so I’m trying to figure out what I’m going to bring to that.

Virginia

That’s a good chance to get rid of a lot of things and hopefully not acquire too many more things. But no judgment! This is a safe space.

Corinne

I know. I have made the mistake in the past of getting stuff from clothing swaps, I guess because it’s free, and then just never wearing it. 

Virginia

Oh, 100 percent. I remember, a million years ago, going to a clothing swap with a lot of other women’s magazines editors. So the style and quality level was high. It was not a size inclusive event, let’s be very clear. But I did get this amazing red leather purse that I used for years afterwards. I don’t know what happened to that bag. That was a good bag. 

Corinne

This is a group of people where we probably do it twice a year, and everyone is plus size, and we always joke that it’s like, one person passes all their stuff to this person. That person passes all their stuff to that person.

Virginia

You could just call the person you always give stuff to and be like, “Here’s your bag of clothes.”

Corinne

And actually, one of the people saw my post and was like, is this stuff coming to the clothing swap? And I was like, oh, shoot, no. I sold it.

Virginia

Sold the clogs! I was very interested, you had those high-heeled clogs in that post. That was a non-Corinne shoe choice. 

Corinne

Well, I think I literally got them in like 2018 and I’ve just had them sitting around. I’m not a good declutterer.

Virginia

You’re on your decluttering journey. You’re working towards decluttering. It’s very exciting.

Corinne

I’m also really guilty of, like, I’ll declutter stuff from my closet and then still keep it. I have boxes of stuff in my entryway that is just stuff I need to get rid of.

Virginia

I’ve been working on my basement, which was a real situation, because my kids’ dad moved out and left some stuff. And neither one of us knew how to deal with this chaos basement. And I’ve got it almost all under control. His stuff is in a clear pile for him to come over and decide what to do, there’s a big donate pile. And then there’s this closet that I’m just calling the Closet of Doom. And I just don’t open it and I don’t know what’s in it, and I don’t want to know. 

Corinne

I think it’s okay to have one doom closet.

Virginia

I think everyone needs a Closet of Doom. But your primary clothing closet should not be your closet of doom.

I’m also excited for you because I know there are various infrastructure concerns like your hou