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What's The Deal With: Civilization Games?

What's The Deal With: Civilization Games?

Update: 2025-02-13
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This podcast episode delves into the world of 4X strategy games, focusing heavily on the release of Civilization VII and its innovative mechanics. The hosts analyze the game's age-based structure and the decoupling of leader selection from civilization, debating its impact on complexity and accessibility compared to previous iterations and other 4X titles. The discussion broadens to encompass the genre's inherent challenges for new players, stemming from its steep learning curve and significant time investment. Personal experiences with various 4X games are shared, highlighting different approaches to victory. Finally, the podcast concludes with individual reviews of the RPG Avowed (praised for its exploration and storytelling), an analysis of Dragon Age: Dreadwolf (critiqued for its perceived lack of conflict), and a discussion of Spotify's shift towards algorithm-driven playlists and its implications for the music industry.

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00:02:35
Civilization VII and 4X Strategy Games

A detailed discussion of Civilization VII's new mechanics (age-based structure, independent leader selection), comparing its complexity and accessibility to previous games and other 4X titles. The challenges of the 4X genre for new players are also explored.

00:42:18
Game Reviews and Spotify's Algorithm

Individual reviews of Avowed (positive), Dragon Age: Dreadwolf (critical analysis of its narrative), and a discussion of Spotify's shift towards algorithm-driven playlists and its impact on music discovery and artist royalties.

Keywords

4X Strategy Games


A genre of turn-based strategy games emphasizing exploration, expansion, exploitation, and extermination. Examples include Civilization and Endless Space.

Civilization VII


The latest Civilization game, featuring a new age-based structure and independent leader selection.

Game Accessibility


How easy a game is to learn and play, often impacted by complexity and learning curve.

Avowed


A new first-person fantasy RPG from Obsidian Entertainment, praised for its exploration and environmental storytelling.

Dragon Age: Dreadwolf


The latest Dragon Age game, analyzed for its narrative structure and perceived lack of conflict.

Spotify Playlists


Spotify's curated playlists, increasingly using algorithm-driven content, raising concerns about royalty payments and music discovery.

Sid Meier's Civilization


A long-running and influential 4X strategy game franchise.

Q&A

  • What are the key differences between Civilization VII and previous installments?

    Civ VII introduces a new age-based structure and independent leader selection, impacting complexity and gameplay.

  • What makes 4X strategy games challenging for new players?

    The high barrier to entry stems from complex systems, a steep learning curve, and significant time commitment.

  • What are the hosts' overall impressions of Avowed?

    The hosts are highly positive, praising its exploration, environmental storytelling, and overall enjoyable vibe.

  • What is the central argument of the discussion regarding Dragon Age: Dreadwolf?

    The narrative feels overly safe and lacks conflict, possibly due to the uncertain future of the franchise.

  • How does Spotify's algorithm impact music discovery and artist royalties?

    The increased use of algorithm-driven playlists raises concerns about fair royalty payments and the future of music discovery.

Show Notes

Civilization VII is out this week, and it's time to break down Sid Meier's iconic series. Kirk, Jason, and Maddy talk about their favorite games in the franchise, what "4X" actually means, and why Civ games are so appealing to so many people.

One More Thing:

Kirk: “The Ghosts in the Machine” an excerpt from Mood Machine by Liz Pelly

Maddy: Dragon Age: The Veilguard Just Went From A Good RPG To One Of BioWare’s Most Important Games’ by Ken Shepard [Spoilers]

Jason: Avowed

LINKS:

“Casual Viewing: Why Netflix Looks Like That” by Will Tavlin for N+1: https://www.nplusonemag.com/issue-49/essays/casual-viewing/

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What's The Deal With: Civilization Games?

What's The Deal With: Civilization Games?

Jason Schreier, Maddy Myers, Kirk Hamilton