Former Jerusalem Post editor-in-chief Yaakov Katz joins Noam Dworman and Dan Naturman to dissect the failures behind October 7, the moral and strategic crises of modern Israel, and the political culture that allowed catastrophe to take root. Based on his new book While Israel Slept, Katz lays out how a nation of elite intelligence, defense technology, and Iron Dome confidence was blindsided by its own assumptions.

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He addresses:

Whether Israeli journalism should expose government failures during wartime

The growing rift between American and Israeli public opinion

Why Israel misread Hamas for decades

Netanyahu’s political survival and the myth that Israel “built up” Hamas

How AI is used in IDF targeting and whether it saves or costs civilian lives

The accusations of an Israeli “stand-down” on October 7

The uncomfortable moral math of urban warfare in Gaza

Chapters:
00:00 – Introduction
01:10 – Journalism in wartime Israel: Patriotism vs Accountability
04:40 – Why Israelis didn’t see Gaza’s destruction
08:10 – Media bias and trauma after October 7
13:00 – AI targeting, 972 Magazine, and how truth gets distorted
21:10 – “While Israel Slept” – The Premise and Title’s Origin
22:30 – Israel’s strategic blindness: Containment and Complacency
26:50 – The myth that Israel “wanted” Hamas
30:00 – Netanyahu, Qatar, and paying for quiet
34:00 – The failure of imagination on October 6
35:10 – Hezbollah and the deterrence paradox
38:20 – Can Israel learn from this? Preemption vs Occupation
40:50 – The Right, the Left, and the Gray Zone
44:00 – Morality, civilian deaths, and propaganda math
50:00 – The antisemitism question and media narratives
56:00 – Netanyahu’s communications failure
57:20 – Conspiracy theories: the “stand-down” myth
01:00:00 – Friendly fire and the Hannibal Directive
01:03:20 – Why Israel must investigate itself
01:06:10 – Closing thoughts and the future of Israeli democracy