DiscoverLex Fridman Podcast#475 – Demis Hassabis: Future of AI, Simulating Reality, Physics and Video Games
#475 – Demis Hassabis: Future of AI, Simulating Reality, Physics and Video Games

#475 – Demis Hassabis: Future of AI, Simulating Reality, Physics and Video Games

Update: 2025-07-232
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Demis Hassabis is the CEO of Google DeepMind and Nobel Prize winner for his groundbreaking work in protein structure prediction using AI.

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OUTLINE:

(00:00 ) – Introduction

(00:29 ) – Sponsors, Comments, and Reflections

(08:40 ) – Learnable patterns in nature

(12:22 ) – Computation and P vs NP

(21:00 ) – Veo 3 and understanding reality

(25:24 ) – Video games

(37:26 ) – AlphaEvolve

(43:27 ) – AI research

(47:51 ) – Simulating a biological organism

(52:34 ) – Origin of life

(58:49 ) – Path to AGI

(1:09:35 ) – Scaling laws

(1:12:51 ) – Compute

(1:15:38 ) – Future of energy

(1:19:34 ) – Human nature

(1:24:28 ) – Google and the race to AGI

(1:42:27 ) – Competition and AI talent

(1:49:01 ) – Future of programming

(1:55:27 ) – John von Neumann

(2:04:41 ) – p(doom)

(2:09:24 ) – Humanity

(2:12:30 ) – Consciousness and quantum computation

(2:18:40 ) – David Foster Wallace

(2:25:54 ) – Education and research


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#475 – Demis Hassabis: Future of AI, Simulating Reality, Physics and Video Games

#475 – Demis Hassabis: Future of AI, Simulating Reality, Physics and Video Games

Lex Fridman