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A Raw, Honest Story About IVF, Surrogacy, & Having A Rainbow Baby

A Raw, Honest Story About IVF, Surrogacy, & Having A Rainbow Baby

Update: 2024-05-20


Author Phoebe Lapine shares her conception story in this Pros & Cons Of Having Kids episode, from experiencing multiple miscarriages, to working with a reproductive immunologist, to conceiving through IVF & surrogacy.

As a warning, we do discuss miscarriage in this episode, so if that’s a sensitive or triggering topic for you at this time, it may be best to sit this episode out. If that applies to you, I love you and I’ll see you on Wednesday.

  • The emotional weight of Phoebe’s first miscarriage, and how that informed the following three she experienced

  • What a reproductive immunologist is & the role they played in Phoebe’s conception journey

  • Phoebe’s full toolkit to keep herself physically & mentally healthy during such a difficult time

  • The important role that carbs play in stabilizing your hormones AND what to look for to find the most easily-digestible carbs in the grocery store

  • Exactly how much surrogacy costs & what you can expect an agency to do for you

  • How IVF hormone injections REALLY impact your health and body

  • A frank conversation about the ethical implications of surrogacy

  • How to best support a friend experiencing pregnancy loss–and what NOT to say

  • The surprising upsides and downsides of having a baby by surrogacy 

  • And so much more

For more from Phoebe, you can find her on Instagram at @phoebelapine or You can find her new cookbook, Carbivore, where books are sold.

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Previous episodes referred to in this episode:

This Episode Will Transform How You Feel About Your Body with Lindsay Kite, PhD

Why You Need A Dopamine Detox (And Exactly How To Do It)

Skincare Secrets: How To Naturally Heal Acne, Dry Skin, Eczema, & Dermatitis with Dr. Sarah Villafranco

The Pros & Cons Of Having Kids

The 2nd Pros & Cons Of Having Kids Episode: Pooping During Labor, The Real Cost + Sex & Body Image After Birth

How To Know If You Should Have Kid(s) + Debunking Myths About Parenthood with Merle Bombardieri, MSW, LISCW

What It’s REALLY Like To Be Childfree By Choice with Ruby Warrington & Vanessa and Xander Marin

All The Fertility Qs You’re Too Nervous To Ask: Answered

The Liz Moody Podcast cover art by Zack. The Liz Moody Podcast music by Alex Ruimy.

Formerly the Healthier Together Podcast. 

This podcast and website represents the opinions of Liz Moody and her guests to the show. The content here should not be taken as medical advice. The content here is for information purposes only, and because each person is so unique, please consult your healthcare professional for any medical questions.

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A Raw, Honest Story About IVF, Surrogacy, & Having A Rainbow Baby

A Raw, Honest Story About IVF, Surrogacy, & Having A Rainbow Baby

Liz Moody