In this episode of Supply Chain Now, Scott Luton and special guest host Claudia Freed, President & CEO of EALGreen, welcome Chuck Johnston, Chief Strategy Officer at ReturnPro, for a deep dive into the “dark side” of supply chain: reverse logistics and returns management. They unpack why returns are a nearly trillion-dollar challenge in the U.S., how BORIS (buy online, return in store) strains store operations, and why many retailers still under-invest: leaders often can’t see the full cost across functions or make the ROI case for what’s treated as a cost center.

Chuck shares how the space has evolved from yellow notepads to data-driven decisioning, highlighting intelligent algorithms that route items at the customer’s first return click, fraud mitigation with imaging and behavior signals, and how third-party innovation is compressing software build times. Claudia adds a nonprofit and circularity lens: donation channels, extended tax credits, and AI pilots (computer vision + MCP agents) that identify item condition and slotting in real time. Together, they explore where to start, why cross-functional “ambassadors” matter, and how partnerships across retailers, manufacturers, nonprofits, and 3PLs can turn returns from margin erosion into measurable value and social impact.

Jump into the conversation:

(00:00 ) Intro

(04:03 ) Warm-up questions and fun facts

(05:54 ) Chuck Johnston's career journey

(13:53 ) Challenges and opportunities in returns management

(21:47 ) Technological innovations in returns management

(29:50 ) AI solutions in inventory management

(30:26 ) Tax benefits and opportunities for companies

(31:06 ) The golden age of supply chain tech

(31:44 ) AI's impact on fraud management

(34:44 ) The debate on more returns vs. fewer returns

(37:08 ) The EU Circular Economy Act

(39:18 ) Returns fraud and data analytics

(47:00 ) The importance of education and ambassadors

(49:45 ) Connecting with industry leaders

(52:01 ) Resources and upcoming events

Resources

• Connect with Chuck Johnston: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chuck-johnston-b07b3b4/ 
• Connect with Claudia Freed: https://www.linkedin.com/in/claudiafreed/ 
• Connect with Scott Luton: https://www.linkedin.com/in/scottwindonluton/
• Learn more about ReturnPro: https://www.returnpro.com
• Download a copy of the Returns Report: 2025 Holiday Edition by ReturnPro: https://www.returnpro.com/resources/blog/returns-report-2025-holiday-edition 
• Learn more about EALGreen: https://www.ealgreen.org 
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This episode was hosted by Scott Luton and Claudia Freed and produced by Trisha Cordes, Joshua Miranda, and Amanda Luton. For additional information, please visit our dedicated show page at: https://supplychainnow.com/ask-me-anything-reverse-logistics-returns-1495