This week Kara and Liza recap “Ballerina” (Season 10, Episode 16) and explore two truly wild cases; Betty Neumar (a.k.a. "The Black Widow Granny") and Sante and Kenneth Kimes. Plus, they speak to the legend Matthew Lillard (Scream, Scooby-Doo).

This episode was recorded before the SAG-AFTRA strike.

SOURCES:

The New York Times 1

The New York Times 2

The New York Times 3

The New York Times 4

The New York Times 5

Vanity Fair

The Daily Mail

Cleveland.com

Syracuse.com

The Florida Times-Union

Los Angeles Times

The Maverick Files

WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:

Like Mother, Like Son: The Strange Story Of Santé & Kenneth Kimes

Next week’s episode will be “The Third Guy” (Season 1, Episode 16).

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