Behind the Mic, Episode 2

In this second Behind the Mic bonus episode, we take a deeper look at some of the big themes explored in IPAA Insiders Season 1, with a focus on leadership, purpose, and the role of diversity in strengthening the public service.

Host Jo Rose is joined by Public Service Commissioner Kathrina Lo and Megan Maletic, previous Lead Consulting Partner at Deloitte for the NSW Government and public services sector. Together, they reflect on what effective leadership looks like in times of complexity, change, and fiscal constraint, and why inclusive, purpose led leadership is critical to delivering outcomes for the people of New South Wales.

The conversation explores how values such as integrity, service, and stewardship come to life in everyday leadership, regardless of role or seniority. Kathrina shares insights from her sector wide perspective, highlighting the importance of frank and fearless advice, building trust through relationships, and maintaining a clear focus on long term outcomes, not just immediate outputs.

Jo and Megan reflect on the importance of understanding the broader public sector ecosystem, staying curious about national and global trends, and drawing strength from diverse perspectives. The episode also highlights practical ways individuals can champion diversity and inclusion in their own spheres of influence, from recruitment and team culture to allyship and professional networks.

Whether you’re navigating change, aspiring to leadership, or thinking about how you contribute to a more inclusive and effective public service, this Behind the Mic episode offers thoughtful reflections and practical insights to support your journey.

SHOW CREDITS
Host: Jo Rose
Writers: Alessia Campagna, Nicola Hardy and Jo Rose
Producer and Editor: Alessia Campagna
Technical Producer: Anthony Watson
Executive Producers: Jo Rose and Nicola Hardy

Music Credits:
Let The Good Times Roll: Music from #Uppbeat
https://uppbeat.io/t/ra/let-good-times-roll
License code: DNAIHKYCKOUU6HBT

Enchanted Puzzle: Music from #Uppbeat
https://uppbeat.io/t/andrey-rossi/enchanted-puzzle
License code: YTN0OYX8RBDDUQ73

Easy Flow: Music from #Uppbeat
https://uppbeat.io/t/hybridas/easy-flow
License code: R2FTWOYRCB7YOW21

Not That Easy: Music from #Uppbeat
https://uppbeat.io/t/soundroll/not-that-easy
License code: MYQOVXXWAFZULECH

On Tiptoes: Music from #Uppbeat
https://uppbeat.io/t/soundroll/on-tiptoes

We would like to acknowledge the Traditional Owners of the land on which the podcast is taking place today. We pay our deep respects to all Elders past, present and emerging. We would also like to extend that respect to any Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples listening today.