"...more with one of them and that and in and I think as we were going along we realized our patients were stressed but we would actually when we first got together we would actually say okay on this patient it's there really stress so we should do like just the brain and not do the functional chemistry and and not worry about the gut and and these people will just do the gut and not worry about it because they don't seem to be quiet and one of our big breakthroughs was to realize that most of our people were not just stressed that they were actually kind of a chronic fight flight or post-traumatic stress syndrome and it's amazing when I bring this to people in the consult it's amazing how many people acknowledged and literally stopped me in the middle of my explanation go that's me and and they had at that hadn't really given a thought to the fact that they weren't a chronic stress response and these people are of course are here because they're trying to figure out what's causing their their chronic pain..."

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