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In this episode, host Rob Harter talks with Betsy Cooper of the Aspen Policy Academy / Aspen Institute about how nonprofit and social impact leaders can channel their passion for social change into tangible policy influence. They explore the balance between advocacy and legal constraints for nonprofits, the six‑step process for developing policy influence, and real examples of how ideas become implemented policy. They also dive into the skills, tools, and strategies needed to make lasting change, including how AI is beginning to intersect with civic engagement and government.

Betsy shares frameworks that help translate mission-driven ideas into practical policy proposals, stakeholder strategies, communication approaches, and implementation plans. The conversation is rich with concrete advice for practitioners who want to move beyond service to shape the rules that influence systems.

Key Topics Include:

The six‑step policy impact process: defining, researching, solution design, stakeholder mapping, advocacy, execution

Guardrails and legal constraints for nonprofit advocacy, and how to engage responsibly

The role of tools like policy memos, briefs, redlined texts, and operational plans in influencing decision‑makers

Core skills for change makers: strategy, communication, stakeholder mapping

Integrating policy engagement into social innovation and how it often becomes the missing lever

Examples of successful transitions from idea to policy (e.g. Aspen fellows influencing Utah’s data center water usage rules)

Emerging intersections of AI with government, public policy, and nonprofit advocacy

Mentioned in This Episode:

• Aspen Policy Academy


• Boulder Advocacy


• Rising Civic AI Leaders


• Aspen Tech Policy Hub

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