What’s good people! Today we have long time friend friend Jelly Roll. He explains how he got Little Ron, what lead him to his biggest song ever “Save Me”, and why Taylor Swift is the Michael Jackson of country. INDULGE!


00:00 Flagrant nearly ended Jelly Roll + “Open Er’ up”
04:49 Publicist quit after 72 hours
07:34 Jelly Roll = C0v1d’s dream + Mask Politics
08:34 Trajectory’s been insane + dealing with success
12:36 Jelly Roll’s criminal past
17:49 Trying to buy childhood home
18:55 Mom was special but troubled + power of music
20:43 Importance of the Rose
23:18 “Save Me”
32:25 Our favourite country singer = Lainey Wilson
35:18 Moment it took off
36:49 Success exposes you to yourself
37:56 Chase the cool not money
39:48 Bunnie Xo is a G + meeting for 1st time
50:35 Marrying Bunnie brought BENEFITS
55:52 Be fully open and honest about everything
59:11 Women know what they’re doing + fugged up credit
01:01:19 Taking everything seriously
01:06:27 Lil Ron adoption + lil people MEAT
01:16:56 Hard to fire people + Bunnie has her own bus
01:18:52 Scary Larry
01:21:25 Letting go creatively, insane venues & production
01:24:40 Taylor Swift is genuinely brilliant
01:31:46 Curating a Churchlike experience
01:33:58 Real connection with fans
01:37:22 Being lucky + dreaming BIG
01:40:51 Dreaming unrealistically
01:45:01 Dream collaborations + That Mexican OT
01:49:31 The Weeknd & maintaining mystery
01:53:25 Travis Scott + Lil Yachty are elite
01:57:37 Shrooms to create + constantly uncomfortable
02:00:55 Feeling like you’ve said everything
02:04:54 Time to decompress properly + cycle writing
02:09:41 Jelly Roll able to vocalise what we feel
02:10:14 Genius of Willie Nelson + creating authentically
02:14:05 Being rich makes you political
02:16:33 Jelly’s relationship with God & Church
02:22:16 The Church will die by weaponising Jesus
02:26:49 The feeling that DMX created
02:28:58 Abusing power + bringing people to God
02:34:47 All boats are floating
02:35:53 RAPID CITY BUY DEM TICKETS