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No More: Working Together To End Domestic Violence

No More: Working Together To End Domestic Violence

Update: 2023-12-111


Disclaimer: This episode includes discussions of sensitive topics, such as sexual assault and domestic violence. Listener discretion is advised.

Jane Randel and Pamela Zaballa, leaders of NO MORE, a global domestic and sexual violence nonprofit organization and long-term advisors to Justin Baldoni’s upcoming film “It Ends WIth Us,” join for a discussion about the complex causes of intimate partner violence, generational cycles of abuse, and the burning need for empathy and inclusion towards men in these conversations.

Jamey, Justin, and Liz bravely open up about their personal experiences as survivors of sexual assault and domestic violence. Liz exposes the gaslighting survivors face, staying in relationships that appear flawless to the outside world. Jamey shares his experiences with sexual assault and molestation from a young age, processing his trauma later in life, and how he's since discovered a deep sense of peace.

Learn about NO MORE’s first of its kind collaboration with Wayfarer Studios on “It Ends With Us”, emphasizing the powerful role media can play in creating narratives of change that encourage survivors to share their stories.

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(00:00 ) - Episode Begins

(00:33 ) - We have to stop talking to men as if they are already perpetrators of abuse

(05:54 ) - Welcome Jane and Pamela 

(19:04 ) - Spotting early signs of abuse and trauma in relationships 

(31:26 ) - Jamey's Story 

(39:44 ) - Child survivors of domestic abuse  

(47:20 ) - Liz’s Story

(58:32 ) - Accountability in male friendships 

(1:12:23 ) - No More x “It Ends With Us”


“Find one friend in your life that will challenge you…so that you yourself can be better.” - Jamey Heath

“It’s the emotional scars that are deeper and longer lasting on survivors." - Liz Plank

“Abusers often have their own trauma and were victims of abuse…hurt people, hurt people." - Justin Baldoni

"We don't talk enough about love and what love makes us do, when we wonder why somebody stays or leaves." - Pamala Zaballa 

"People always say 'why didn't she leave?'... They got together because there was love. And that doesn't necessarily change, sadly. If there's abuse, there can still be love." - Jane Randel

About NO MORE:

The NO MORE Foundation is dedicated to ending domestic violence and sexual assault by increasing awareness, inspiring action, and fueling culture change. With over 1,400 allied organizations and state, local, and international chapters, NO MORE encourages everyone—women and men, youth and adults, from all walks of life—to be part of the solution.

  • NO MORE Global Directory -

  • National Domestic Violence Hotline - 1-800-799-7233

  • National Sexual Assault Hotline - 1-800-656-4673

  • In an emergency, call 911

Instagram: @Nomoreorg

Twitter: @NOMOREorg

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