We start off the show catching up on the weekend. Brond was back in the studio with Marta, cooking up new stuff but of course, nothing’s ever easy. They discovered an issue with one of the very expensive mics. You know the one. The fancy mic. Meanwhile, Sammy and Yanko were out at the Oakland Roots home opener, and look Sammy’ll say it every time: the Coliseum is his favorite place on Earth.

We talk Mom Jeans Summer, California headliner dates, and then we somehow jump from Sacramento to Birmingham, Alabama in a 24-hour span for Furnace Fest 2025. Then, we do a deep dive into the world of Mother Selene art direction, vibe creation, and the beautiful joy of building a whole aesthetic from scratch. 

Then we slide into our very first Errors & Grievances (some of you had thoughts, and yes, we do need to apologize), and we wrap it all up with the Mailbag shoutouts, questions, and a few curveballs from our beloved listeners. 

It’s Episode 4. It’s “The Juice.” Thanks for being part of this little thing we’re building.