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Johann Slakor, a Chicago native, joins Fresh Air to discuss his Pulitzer Prize-winning podcast "You Didn't See Nothing." The podcast investigates a 1997 hate crime against a 13-year-old Black boy named Lenard Clark, who was beaten into a coma after riding his bike into the predominantly white Chicago neighborhood of Bridgeport. Slakor, who was 23 at the time, covered the story for a community newspaper and later served a 10-year prison sentence for selling drugs. The podcast delves into the details of the crime, the Caruso family's ties to the Mafia, and the racial tensions in Bridgeport. Slakor also shares his personal journey, including his struggles with drug addiction and his time in prison. He reflects on the impact of the attack on Lenard Clark and the broader implications for racial reconciliation in America. The podcast features interviews with Lenard Clark, who speaks through a mutual friend, and explores the lasting effects of the attack on his life. Slakor discusses the challenges of achieving true reconciliation in a society where systemic racism persists.

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Introduction

This Chapter introduces the podcast "You Didn't See Nothing" and its creator, Johann Slakor, a Chicago native who won the 2024 Pulitzer Prize for Audio for his work. The podcast investigates a 1997 hate crime against a 13-year-old Black boy named Lenard Clark, who was beaten into a coma after riding his bike into the predominantly white Chicago neighborhood of Bridgeport. Slakor, who was 23 at the time, covered the story for a community newspaper and later served a 10-year prison sentence for selling drugs. The podcast delves into the details of the crime, the Caruso family's ties to the Mafia, and the racial tensions in Bridgeport. Slakor also shares his personal journey, including his struggles with drug addiction and his time in prison.

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The Attack on Lenard Clark

This Chapter details the attack on Lenard Clark, a 13-year-old Black boy who was beaten into a coma after riding his bike into the predominantly white Chicago neighborhood of Bridgeport. The attack was carried out by Frank Caruso Jr., the son of a powerful Chicago union boss with ties to the Mafia. The attack made national news, and President Bill Clinton even spoke about it, calling for peace. Slakor, who was 23 at the time, covered the story for a community newspaper and later served a 10-year prison sentence for selling drugs. The podcast delves into the details of the crime, the Caruso family's ties to the Mafia, and the racial tensions in Bridgeport.

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Slakor's Personal Journey

This Chapter explores Slakor's personal journey, including his struggles with drug addiction and his time in prison. He reflects on the impact of the attack on Lenard Clark and the broader implications for racial reconciliation in America. The podcast features interviews with Lenard Clark, who speaks through a mutual friend, and explores the lasting effects of the attack on his life. Slakor discusses the challenges of achieving true reconciliation in a society where systemic racism persists.

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The Podcast's Impact

This Chapter discusses the podcast's impact and the feedback Slakor has received. He shares that he has received positive feedback from listeners but also some hate mail from people in Bridgeport who are critical of his work. Slakor reflects on the challenges of reporting on sensitive topics and the importance of telling stories that are often overlooked.

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Q&A

• What is the main topic of the podcast "You Didn't See Nothing"?

  The podcast investigates a 1997 hate crime against a 13-year-old Black boy named Lenard Clark in Chicago. It explores the complex racial dynamics of the city, the Caruso family's ties to the Mafia, and the impact of the crime on Lenard Clark's life.

• Who is Johann Slakor?

  Johann Slakor is a Chicago native and the creator of the Pulitzer Prize-winning podcast "You Didn't See Nothing." He covered the Lenard Clark case for a community newspaper in 1997 and later served a 10-year prison sentence for selling drugs. The podcast is a personal and investigative journey that explores the complexities of race, crime, and justice in Chicago.

• What happened to Lenard Clark?

  Lenard Clark was a 13-year-old Black boy who was beaten into a coma after riding his bike into the predominantly white Chicago neighborhood of Bridgeport in 1997. The attack was a hate crime, and the podcast "You Didn't See Nothing" investigates the incident and its impact on Lenard Clark's life.

• What is the significance of the Caruso family?

  The Caruso family is a powerful Chicago family with ties to the Mafia. Frank Caruso Jr., the son of a powerful Chicago union boss, was the perpetrator of the hate crime against Lenard Clark. The podcast explores the Caruso family's influence in Chicago and how their ties to the Mafia may have impacted the investigation into the crime.

• What are some of the challenges of achieving true racial reconciliation?

  Slakor argues that true racial reconciliation is difficult to achieve in a society where systemic racism persists. He believes that white people need to acknowledge their role in perpetuating racism and take concrete steps to dismantle systems of oppression. He also highlights the importance of listening to the experiences of Black people and understanding the impact of racism on their lives.

• How did Slakor's personal journey influence the podcast?

  Slakor's personal journey, including his struggles with drug addiction and his time in prison, informs the podcast's exploration of the complexities of race, crime, and justice in Chicago. His experiences give him a unique perspective on the challenges faced by Black people in the city and the impact of systemic racism on their lives.

• What is the significance of Lenard Clark's decision not to speak directly to Slakor for the podcast?

  Lenard Clark's decision to speak through a mutual friend, Hot Rod, highlights the lasting impact of the attack on his life. He has been reluctant to speak to the press because of his experiences with people trying to exploit his story. His decision to trust Hot Rod reflects the importance of building trust and understanding in the context of trauma and injustice.

• What is Slakor's perspective on reconciliation?

  Slakor believes that true reconciliation is difficult to achieve in a society where systemic racism persists. He argues that white people need to acknowledge their role in perpetuating racism and take concrete steps to dismantle systems of oppression. He also highlights the importance of listening to the experiences of Black people and understanding the impact of racism on their lives.

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