S4E34: A Conversation so Intense It Might as Well Be Psychedelic | John Vervaeke
On this Season 4, Episode 34 of the Jordan Peterson Podcast, Jordan is joined by John Vervaeke, a colleague of Jordan’s. John has been an associate professor in the teaching stream at the University of Toronto since 1994. He teaches courses in the Psychology department on thinking and reasoning with an emphasis on insight problem solving associated with creativity, cognitive development with an emphasis on the dynamic nature of development, and higher cognitive processes with an emphasis on intelligence, rationality, mindfulness, and the psychology of wisdom.
Jordan and John discuss how they know each other, the last time they saw one another, Christianity, power, perspective, atheists, religion, Heidegger, and much more.
Find more about John Vervaeke online on his website http://johnvervaeke.com/
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I had to stop at 20 minutes. I don't know how people made it past that with all the interruptions.
I put this on to fall asleep to. I feel like I've heard all of JBP's main theses, and I love John's work but often find it a bit beyond my ability to grasp. Aside from Jordan's constant interruptions, however, I found this conversation comprehensible and riveting. I now better understand John's ideas as well as how Jordan's (overly, imo tbh) symbolic thought maps to reality, and where/how their thinking map to each other.
Why bother having a guest if you're not going to let them finish any of their thoughts Jordan?
stop interrupting, your conversation feels like you are jamming your perspective e down his throat
You must have really shit drugs.
I enjoyed the conversation in this podcast, although it was hard to follow for two reasons. The first reason is, I'm not nearly smart enough to take it all in, in one listen. The second reason, and one I hope is taken as a honestly critique, is the constant interrupting from Jordan.