Andy and Nick sit down with STS9's Hunter Brown and Alana Rocklin for a very jam band episode of the World Saving Podcast.

They dive into The Human Dream, STS9's new concept-leaning record, why it captures what Sound Tribe really sounds like in 2025, and how their Santa Cruz environment and the devastating Big Basin fire shaped the music.

They get honest about the modern jam band scene, from fan tribalism to former member Murph playing the old songs again, and why Hunter refuses to treat music like sports rivalries. There is also a frank talk about the brutal economics of touring, Red Rocks, and why even successful bands are rethinking how they hit the road as costs skyrocket.

Alana opens up about raising a kid while living the musician life, losing her home in the fire, and turning that trauma into bass lines and new songs. Hunter gets into mindset, hypnotherapy, "being a great number two," and what a more human music world could look like.

If you love STS9, jam bands, live music culture, or just unfiltered conversations about art, music, and survival, this one is for you. Like, subscribe, and share to keep the pod rolling.

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