DiscoverChalk & TalkUsing the Instructional Hierarchy to teach math with Brendan Lee (Ep 53)
Using the Instructional Hierarchy to teach math with Brendan Lee (Ep 53)

Using the Instructional Hierarchy to teach math with Brendan Lee (Ep 53)

Update: 2025-08-22
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In this episode, Anna Stokke chats with Brendan Lee, a teacher and educational consultant focused on bridging the gap between educational research and classroom practice. They discuss the instructional hierarchy and how teachers can tailor their teaching based on where students are in their learning journey––whether it’s the acquisition, fluency, generalisation, or adaptation stage. Brendan shares practical strategies and actionable advice that teachers can immediately apply in the classroom to better support student learning. This is an insightful discussion that will leave educators feeling informed, inspired, and ready to take on their next lesson.


 


Brendan Lee’s website: www.learnwithlee.net


This episode is also available in video at www.youtube.com/@chalktalk-stokke


 


TIMESTAMPS


[00:00:23 ] Introduction


[00:03:15 ] Understanding the Instructional Hierarchy


[00:04:40 ] The acquisition stage


[00:08:28 ] Teacher’s Talk Radio


[00:10:39 ] Students’ struggles in the acquisition stage


[00:12:48 ] Effective teaching techniques in the acquisition stage


[00:19:37 ] Think-alouds: The meaning and purpose


[00:23:45 ] Concrete-Pictorial-Abstract


[00:33:47 ] Backwards fading method


[00:34:58 ] Make or break method


[00:36:50 ] Fluency stage: what teaching techniques work best


[00:47:34 ] Generalization/adaptation stage


[00:55:11 ] When to use teaching tools


[01:00:55 ] Advice for new teachers using the Instructional Hierarchy


 


RELEVANT PREVIOUS EPISODES 


Reclaiming learning time to boost literacy and numeracy with Ross Fox https://www.podbean.com/ew/pb-bpy4n-188c9c5


Supporting students with math difficulties with Sarah Powell

https://www.podbean.com/eas/pb-ciqgm-17def6b


Math fact crisis: Strategies for improving numeracy with Brian Poncy https://www.podbean.com/ew/pb-u9y84-165d773


Math fluency matters with Brian Poncy

https://www.podbean.com/ew/pb-pj6z6-166741e


Cognitive load theory in math class with David Morkunas https://www.podbean.com/eas/pb-znh5k-15f793


EPISODE TRANSCRIPT


https://www.annastokke.com/transcripts/ep-53-transcript 


MUSIC


Intro and Outro: Coma Media – Catch it


Website: www.annastokke.com


X: @rastokke


LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/anna-stokke-3a1b4c


Bluesky: @rastokke.bsky.social

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Using the Instructional Hierarchy to teach math with Brendan Lee (Ep 53)

Using the Instructional Hierarchy to teach math with Brendan Lee (Ep 53)

Anna Stokke