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Update: 2024-06-13
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Jonathan Van Ness welcomes journalist and author Angela Chen to Getting Curious to discuss asexuality. They delve into the definition of asexuality, exploring the spectrum of experiences and debunking common misconceptions. Chen emphasizes that asexuality is not the same as celibacy, nor is it necessarily linked to medical issues or trauma. She also highlights that asexual individuals can have romantic relationships and enjoy sex for reasons beyond sexual attraction. The conversation then shifts to the concept of compulsory sexuality, the societal pressure to experience and express sexual attraction. Chen explains how this pressure can affect individuals differently based on their gender, disability, race, and other factors. She argues that true sexual liberation requires acknowledging and accepting the diversity of sexual experiences, including asexuality, and challenging the notion that everyone should experience sexual attraction. The episode concludes with a reflection on the importance of taking people at their word and allowing them to explore their sexuality without judgment or categorization.

Outlines

00:00:00
Airbnb Hosting as a Side Hustle

This Chapter discusses the potential of turning an empty house into an Airbnb rental for extra income. It highlights the ease of getting started and the benefits of supporting local economies.

00:01:39
Exploring Asexuality

This Chapter introduces the concept of asexuality and explores its definition, common misconceptions, and the spectrum of experiences. It features an interview with Angela Chen, an expert on asexuality, who shares her personal journey and insights.

00:28:06
Compulsory Sexuality and Its Impact

This Chapter delves into the concept of compulsory sexuality, the societal pressure to experience and express sexual attraction. It examines how this pressure affects individuals differently based on their gender, disability, race, and other factors. The discussion highlights the need to challenge this pressure and embrace the diversity of sexual experiences.

00:35:39
Asexuality and True Sexual Liberation

This Chapter explores the connection between asexuality and true sexual liberation. It argues that true sexual liberation requires acknowledging and accepting the diversity of sexual experiences, including asexuality, and challenging the notion that everyone should experience sexual attraction. The discussion emphasizes the importance of choice, fluidity, and access to diverse sexual experiences without shame.

00:38:38
Gatekeeping in the Ace Community

This Chapter discusses gatekeeping dynamics within the asexual community, particularly the pressure to conform to a specific ideal of what it means to be asexual. It highlights the importance of recognizing the diversity of asexual experiences and avoiding judgment or categorization.

00:42:32
The Impact of Angela Chen's Book

This Chapter explores the impact of Angela Chen's book, "ACE: What Asexuality Reveals About Desire, Society, and the Meaning of Sex," on her own understanding of asexuality and the broader conversation around the topic. It discusses the importance of representation and the diversity of asexual experiences.

00:45:28
Future Directions and Curiosity

This Chapter concludes the episode with a discussion about Angela Chen's future projects and her ongoing curiosity about asexuality and other topics. It highlights her multifaceted interests and her commitment to exploring diverse perspectives.

Keywords

Asexuality
Asexual refers to a sexual orientation characterized by a lack of sexual attraction or a very low level of sexual attraction. It is a spectrum of experiences, with individuals experiencing asexuality in different ways. Some asexual individuals may experience romantic attraction, while others may not. Asexuality is not the same as celibacy, nor is it necessarily linked to medical issues or trauma.

Compulsory Sexuality
Compulsory sexuality refers to the societal pressure to experience and express sexual attraction. It is the idea that everyone should experience sexual attraction and that it is a necessary part of being a healthy, normal adult. This pressure can affect individuals differently based on their gender, disability, race, and other factors. It can lead to feelings of shame, guilt, and inadequacy for those who do not conform to these expectations.

Sexual Liberation
Sexual liberation refers to the freedom to make choices about one's sexuality without shame, judgment, or coercion. It encompasses the right to choose one's sexual partners, activities, and expression without societal pressure or limitations. True sexual liberation requires acknowledging and accepting the diversity of sexual experiences, including asexuality, and challenging the notion that everyone should experience sexual attraction.

Gatekeeping
Gatekeeping refers to the practice of controlling access to a particular group or community. In the context of asexuality, gatekeeping can involve excluding individuals who do not conform to a specific ideal of what it means to be asexual. This can create a sense of exclusion and pressure to conform for those who are trying to find their place within the asexual community.

Angela Chen
Angela Chen is a journalist, editor, and author who specializes in writing about science, technology, and culture. She is the author of the book "ACE: What Asexuality Reveals About Desire, Society, and the Meaning of Sex," which explores the spectrum of asexual experiences and challenges common misconceptions about asexuality. Chen's work has been featured in publications such as Wired, The Wall Street Journal, The New York Times, and The Atlantic.

Jonathan Van Ness
Jonathan Van Ness is a comedian, stylist, and television personality known for his role on the Netflix series "Queer Eye." He is also the host of the podcast "Getting Curious with Jonathan Van Ness," which explores a wide range of topics with experts in their fields. Van Ness is known for his humor, empathy, and passion for learning.

Getting Curious
Getting Curious is a podcast hosted by Jonathan Van Ness that explores a wide range of topics with experts in their fields. The podcast is known for its engaging conversations, insightful discussions, and positive energy. It encourages listeners to embrace curiosity and learn about the world around them.

Q&A

  • What is asexuality and how does it differ from celibacy?

    Asexuality is a sexual orientation characterized by a lack of sexual attraction or a very low level of sexual attraction. It is a spectrum of experiences, with individuals experiencing asexuality in different ways. Some asexual individuals may experience romantic attraction, while others may not. Asexuality is not the same as celibacy, which is the choice to abstain from sexual activity. Asexual individuals may or may not choose to engage in sexual activity.

  • What are some common misconceptions about asexuality?

    Some common misconceptions about asexuality include the belief that it is the same as celibacy, that it is caused by medical issues or trauma, and that asexual individuals do not want romantic relationships. These misconceptions can lead to misunderstandings and prejudice against asexual individuals.

  • What is compulsory sexuality and how does it affect individuals?

    Compulsory sexuality refers to the societal pressure to experience and express sexual attraction. It is the idea that everyone should experience sexual attraction and that it is a necessary part of being a healthy, normal adult. This pressure can affect individuals differently based on their gender, disability, race, and other factors. It can lead to feelings of shame, guilt, and inadequacy for those who do not conform to these expectations.

  • How is asexuality connected to true sexual liberation?

    True sexual liberation requires acknowledging and accepting the diversity of sexual experiences, including asexuality. It means being free to make choices about one's sexuality without shame, judgment, or coercion. This includes the right to choose one's sexual partners, activities, and expression without societal pressure or limitations.

  • What are some examples of gatekeeping in the asexual community?

    Gatekeeping in the asexual community can involve excluding individuals who do not conform to a specific ideal of what it means to be asexual. This can include excluding individuals who are disabled, have mental health issues, or have engaged in sexual activity. This type of gatekeeping can create a sense of exclusion and pressure to conform for those who are trying to find their place within the asexual community.

  • What is the impact of Angela Chen's book "ACE: What Asexuality Reveals About Desire, Society, and the Meaning of Sex"?

    Angela Chen's book has helped to raise awareness of asexuality and challenge common misconceptions about the topic. It has also provided a platform for asexual individuals to share their experiences and perspectives. The book has been praised for its insightful analysis of asexuality and its impact on society.

Show Notes

Introducing How Are The Asexuals Doing? with Angela Chen from Getting Curious with Jonathan Van Ness.

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Happy Pride, Curious People! We’re kicking the month off by talking with Angela Chen about the often overlooked “A” in LGBTQIA+. Angela lays down the basics of asexuality, then she and Jonathan talk more deeply about how the "Ace" perspective can offer everyone a new lens through which to think about their relationships to romance, sex, desire, and culture. Plus, compulsory sexuality and its MAJOR role in our cultural understandings of sex.




Angela Chen is a journalist, editor, and author. She’s worked as a senior editor at WIRED, a staff reporter at The Wall Street Journal, Vox Media’s The Verge, and MIT Technology Review.  Her reporting and essays have also appeared in The New York Times, The Atlantic, The Guardian, Paris Review, Chronicle of Higher Education, Lapham's Quarterly, National Geographic, and more. She is also the author of Ace: What Asexuality Reveals About Desire, Society, and the Meaning of Sex.




You can follow Angela on X @chengela or on Instagram @angelaetcetera.




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