DiscoverSave Yourself With Dr. Amy ShahEp 63 Understanding High Functioning Depression and Finding Joy with Dr. Judith Joseph
Ep 63 Understanding High Functioning Depression and Finding Joy with Dr. Judith Joseph

Ep 63 Understanding High Functioning Depression and Finding Joy with Dr. Judith Joseph

Update: 2025-04-221
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In this episode of Save Yourself, I’m sitting down with my good friend and renowned psychiatrist, Dr. Judith Joseph, for an eye-opening exploration of high functioning depression—a form of depression that often goes unnoticed because those who suffer from it appear to be “doing it all” on the outside. 


Dr. Judith shares insights from her research, her new book, “High Functioning,” and candidly opens up about her own experience with this hidden struggle during the pandemic. Together, we unpack the difference between joy and happiness, explain the concept of anhedonia (the loss of pleasure), and discuss how trauma, cultural background, and family history play a role.

You’ll also hear about Dr. Judith’s evidence-based “5 Vs Method” to reclaim joy and improve wellbeing and how to differentiate burnout from high functioning depression. Plus, there’s practical advice for parents worried about teens and social media, tips to create joyful habits, and guidance on validating your emotions.


Whether you’re feeling “meh” lately or want to support someone who seems outwardly fine but is struggling inside, this episode is packed with compassion, science, and actionable steps for anyone curious about mental health beyond the surface. Tune in for relatable stories, expert strategies, and a fresh perspective on finding happiness—one point of joy at a time.


Episode Highlights

00:00 Dr. Judith's Achievements in Mental Health

05:57 Pandemic Depression Realization

08:50 Overlooked High-Functioning Depression Issue

12:18 "Democratizing the Biopsychosocial Model"

15:49 "Risk Aversion vs. Financial Abundance"

17:21 Embracing Risk After Safe Paths

21:29 Avoidance through Constant Busyness

25:07 Healthy Emotional Expression Tips

28:41 Reconnecting with Core Values

32:39 Teen Life and Digital Socializing

33:54 Social Media Impact Reset Method

37:12 Mindful Social Media Plan

40:03 "Continue the Conversation"


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Ep 63 Understanding High Functioning Depression and Finding Joy with Dr. Judith Joseph

Ep 63 Understanding High Functioning Depression and Finding Joy with Dr. Judith Joseph

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