If men can't listen to women, maybe they can listen to a man having a conversation with someone who can summon birds to land on her hands.

From the guest:

My name is Florence and I am an artist, naturalist, early childhood educator, and a typical polyamorous Seattlite.  In this episode my ADHD and I talk about how biology affects my worldview, how much I hate strip malls, and how I want to be treated as a persona and not just a woman.

From the host:

Surprise guest appearances by my cat and the omnipresent whirring of my 3D printer (my apologies!).

The lecture mentioned in the episode, Eve's Byte of the Apple - Sandi Toksvig

https://youtu.be/UG6Ier4UC_8?si=OtRLI8woiyhRllwb