When a Libra born to an Aries links up with another Aries? Baby, something divine and dangerous is about to happen — and the cosmos can’t contain it. Today, TS Madison sits down at the mic with the one and only comedian, actor, and unapologetic truth-teller Ms. Pat.

They talk about everything from "The Ms. Pat Show" and its 95% true-to-life origins to her astounding journey from hustling in Atlanta to Emmy-nominated sitcom star. Ms. Pat opens up about raising kids while hustling, the importance of building generational wealth, and how mentors like Lee Daniels and Jordan E. Cooper helped her turn her story into a hit.

Then, Ms. Pat gets all the way real — about unlearning homophobia, raising a gay daughter, losing friends who couldn’t evolve, and how shocked she was initially when she realized just how many parents abandon their queer kids. She drops parenting gospel, too: stop hiding behind religion, stop kicking your kids out at 18, and start watering their flowers instead of pouring gasoline on them.

Plus: being a sexually active grandma, why she refuses to babysit, why she hated her daughter's cheerleading coach so much, what Hollywood taught her, and why she wasn’t pressed when Lee Daniels cut her scene from "The United States vs. Billie Holiday" (“my check cleared!”).

All this, and Ms. Pat proves she’s the definition of an ally — loud, loving, and learning out loud.

🎬 Don’t miss "Ms. Pat Settles It" — Season 3 premieres on BET tonight (Tuesday 11/4) at 10 PM ET / 9 CT — the same day this episode drops!

"Outlaws" is hosted by TS Madison, and is part of the Outspoken Network from iHeartPodcasts, co-produced by Turtle Run Entertainment.

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Is it on? Is it on?? Honey, is this thing recording?! TS Madison broke the Internet with six seconds and a 22-inch weave. And she didn’t just go viral — she became part of the culture, from “RuPaul's Drag Race” to Beyoncé’s “Renaissance.” Her superpower? Her voice. Her kryptonite? Doesn’t exist. Her podcast? The one they never saw coming. 

Each week on “Outlaws,” Madison sits down with living legends and rising stars who shed their armor and own their stories — turning side-eyes into sermons, pain into punchlines, and grief into galaxies. They speak when silence is safer. They dream when told to disappear. And they know what so many are taught to fear: that when you speak your truth, you open a portal.

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