On our recent trip to England, we found a cozy hallway in the back of London’s Cafe Oto to sit down with living legends Charles Bullen & Charles Hayward of This Heat. Over the course of the conversation, LITA's Matt Sullivan talks with C & C about their music, legacy, the formation of This Is Not This Heat, as well as what's currently on their turntables.

For folks in the USA, a miracle will soon be hitting our shores – C & C will be performing This Is Not This Heat. These shows will mark the first ever US performances for both C & C in any incarnation. Hallelujah! Tour dates below.

Formed in Brixton, a multicultural, and – at the time – down-at-heel part of south London, This Heat were born into a music scene in rapid flux, first thanks to the punk explosion and then via new wave and its myriad offshoots into pop, rock and art-rock. But while many sought to apply punk attitude to chart-friendly sounds, This Heat were concocting some of the most experimental ideas ever committed to tape, taking influence from musique concrète, krautrock, the burgeoning industrial scene and even the dub reggae blasting out in their home borough.

Photo by Luis Carvajal.

July 19 - Underground Arts (Philadelphia)

July 21 - Pitchfork Festival (Chicago)

July 23 - Pioneer Works (Brooklyn)

Produced by Matt Sullivan and Patrick McCarthy

Recorded by Matt Sullivan

Edited and Mixed by Patrick McCarthy

Thanks to Charles Bullen, Luis Carvajal, Charles Hayward, and everyone at Cafe Oto.

Learn more about our This Heat reissues below.

This Heat This Heat

This Heat Deceit

This Heat Health and Efficiency

This Heat Made Available

This Heat Repeat / Metal

This Heat Live 80-81